Has anyone seen the movie; it didn’t come out in any theaters where I live and I’ve only seen the trailers on YouTube. I’m still trying to figure out what exactly is the story about and what happens specifically in the movie. Anyone who can explain what happens?
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Anyone ask me random questions about "Ideas of a Second Adaption of E7: AO", after I have tirelessly worked on the page for over a year. It was entirely based on what I wished the true sequel of E7 should've been like.
There are a few questions that seem unanswered in episode 50.
1) Why didn't the Limit of Questions happen right away after the Command Cluster was destroyed?
2) Why would Renton set out to save Eureka when he knew he was going to destroy the newly forming Command Cluster and make the Limit of Questions come?
3) Eureka had a gemstone on her forehead, but Renton didn't, so why was his forehead glowing red and hers was glowing blue?
Since Eureka was rejecting into becoming the new Command Cluster, I'd figure the Limit of Questions would try to occur faster. When Renton went to save Eureka, he made it known to the crew that he had a plan on how to save Eureka and the planet but wasn't specific of what he planned to do. The glows on their foreheads is bizarre, but someone told me that it was somewhat of a symbolic connection between them.
There as got to be something that is of great importance about the 606, because it was the only other LFO that was built for TWO people! What on earth is that supposed to mean?
No one knows when exactly Ao and Amber were born, according to the E7 world (the year 12021 in AO episode 22 is the future of Ao's world, not the E7 world). But someone once asked if Eureka was already pregnant during the one year she spent with Renton traveling the planet. Because they were alone for a long time, they likely took the opportunity to consummate their relationship. Eureka seemed eager in creating a family with Renton and the kids, and interested in having a baby after learning she capable of getting pregnant and giving birth in episode 40. She may have learned the facts of conception in episode 38.
Knowing how much she loves Renton, she may react with joy and excitement with knowing she is having his child. Despite his own young age, Renton has experience in parenting due to how he helped Eureka take care of the kids, so he is father material and would be accepting to be responsible for a new child that is biologically theirs. But what does anyone think of how the two would react and adapt to that if they had Ao and Amber soon after the series (like 1-5 years) ended, and how would the family and the Gekkostate react to a new child being born.
I will start my long theories, but I need to make sure people even use this site, before I waste my time writing something nobody will read. Although to start it off I have proof that Anemone is not human and another speculation about the control cluster.
When in the series do you think Eureka started to fall in love with Renton? Because of her lack of knowledge of emotions and lack of interaction with others beyond the military and Gekkostate, she didn't understand what "love" meant. So many things happened between the two in seasons 1 and 2, that no one can be certain when she started to develop feelings towards him, even after he confessed to her in episode 2.
The potential possibilities are:
Episode 1: After Renton panics over his burned shoes, Eureka starts to smile and laugh, which is noted to be the first time she has ever done so.
Episode 2: Eureka tells Renton that he is different than anyone she has ever met and finds him interesting. She also compares him to someone she used to know, who is his father, Adroc.
Episode 9: After Renton tells her that she is still unique without changing, Eureka starts to cry and tells Renton that she has changed ever since he came into her life. She hints that it is a good thing, despite wondering if it is okay for her to change.
Episode 12: When Renton is entranced by the Compac Drive and attempts to remove it, Eureka panics, grabs his hand, and pleads with him to never leave her, as they enter the Zone. In the Zone, she searches for him, and at the end, they are in a golden beach-like dream and hold hands.
Episode 19: As Eureka is being absorbed by the Scub Coral, she starts to feel afraid and cries out for Renton, rather than Holland or anyone else, to save her.
Episode 21: When Renton comes to secretly visit her, she tells him that her heart is racing, but she doesn't know why. However, they get into an argument and when Renton runs off, Eureka tries to reach out to him before passing out. She later asks where he is, but everyone avoids the question.
Episode 23: Eureka starts to wonder where Renton is and why he hasn't visited with her, and begins asking questions about love. Later, she becomes distraught after finding out that Renton left the Gekkostate, and discovers a desire to see him.
Episode 24: Eureka falls into a deep depression over her missing Renton and blaming herself for pushing him away. She starts wearing his clothes and doing his chores to fill the void. She also learns to compare her feelings for him to the term "love" and becomes desperate to see him again.
Episode 26: Eureka starts to understand what love means as she keeps missing Renton, and immediately defends him when Holland says he is not important. She even becomes angry at Holland when she learns of how he abused Renton just to get her attention and justified it in her name. She leaves the ship to find him on her own, even risking her life, and when they reunite, she admits that he is the only person for her and they open up to each other about their feelings.
Episodes 23-26 is the most obvious period in which Eureka starts to realize her love for Renton, due to her missing him and feeling, as she called it, a void in her chest. But the question is: when did she start to love him, even without realizing it.
Holland once told Renton, "You believed in the world and so the world kindly answered your belief." In that sense, Renton and Eureka were destined to meet. Even from when Renton was a small child, Eureka's name appeared on his Compac Drive. Because of this, the Scub Coral must have found him as a suitable partner for her and was calling to him that he was the chosen one to be the new hero of the planet. In the manga, he was the "seed" to guarantee the Coralians' survival. Eureka was created to search for Renton and bring him to the Coralians for them to "eat" and evolve. What wasn't anticipated was that Eureka would fall in love with Renton. When this happened, the Coralians actually called Eureka a mistake for developing emotions and fighting against her own kind for the sake of a human boy. In the manga, Eureka falls in love with Renton very early on because, as she tells him, he is the most interesting person she ever met and she feels that she can tell him anything because of his good nature, but when Renton refused to fight with her and the Nirvash and she was left badly defeated, she attempted to stop feeling anything because of the pain of rejection and starts to develop scubs on her. When Renton risks his life to save her, she comes to her senses and finally admits her love for him. Sadly, their relationship doesn't last long, due to her disappearing with the Scub Coral after destroying the Coralians. But, they still affirm their love for each other and share their first kiss, and Eureka says how happy she is to have met Renton.
In the anime, Eureka was amazed of how different Renton was than the Gekkostate and compares him to his father, but she finds his own personality interesting. Through him, she begins to learn and emulate the human behavior of a teenage girl, and along with the emotions of a young girl. Renton tells her that she doesn't have to always go along with what others tell her to do and that she can choose for herself, and this makes her realize that she hasn't been the same since she met him. She doesn't understand her growing feelings and wonders if the change in her is a good or bad thing, and through that, questions if being with Renton is right or wrong. However, she ends up depressed and angry at Renton for being a better pilot than her, and isolates herself from him. She succumbs to the Scub Coral but realizes she wants Renton to save her. Everyone, mainly Holland, tells her that Renton is to blame for what happened and gives him the rejection card, causing him to quit the Gekkostate. However, she regrets pushing him away and starts questioning her feelings for him, and freaks out when she learns of his abandonment. Over the next few days, she learns to understand how important he is to her and wants to be with him forever. She even went as far as to lash out at Holland after he says he beat and left Renton behind for her sake, and defied him by leaving the ship to find Renton. When they reunited, Eureka tells Renton how much he means to her and he is meant to be with her. Their relationship quickly develops seriously throughout the series, and by the end, they are married with two children.
A continuation of the 1 year scene of Renton and Eureka traveling and in the woods while the kids stay with Axel. As they look at the moon with Renton and Eureka's names on it and make a wish for their return, Axel and the kids find that the two return home the next morning and share a happy family union. Two more years later, the family and the Gekkostate gather in Bellforest to celebrate the birth of Renton and Eureka's son, Ao.
1) After Renton joins the Gekkostate, how many members does the crew have? 2) How does a person attract Sky Fish? 3) What was Renton's first official job as a member of the Gekkostate? 4) In the entire series, who were the candidates of possibly becoming Eureka's partner? 5) Why is that Renton is the only other person besides Eureka who can pilot Nirvash? 6) By the end of the series, Eureka's dream is to become a what? 7) What is it that Master Norb predicts will occur in the future that involves Eureka? 8) How many LFOs does Holland have? 9) Who is the first member of the Gekkostate to have a child? 10) What is Dewey's true intentions about the Scub Coral? 11) What are the reasons to why Holland resented Renton in the beginning? 12) Who is the person that teaches Renton how to keep his promise and learn to face the hardships in front of him? 13) When Eureka asked Renton how to scold Maeter for running off, he suggested what? 14) Prior to joining the Gekkostate, had Renton ever ridden in an LFO before? 15) Who was it that came up with the name "Seven Swell" for the phenomenon? 16) In episode 38, what was Moondoggie's big important question that angered everyone? 17) How many times has the Seven Swell been summoned in the series? 18) Where did most of the Scub Coral go to in the final episode? 19) How many times have Renton and Eureka kissed and attempted to kiss? 20) what did Renton dream of becoming at the start of the series? In the epilogue, what did he end of becoming? 21) When Renton left the Gekkostate in episode 21, what was the only thing he left behind? 22) Why does Dewey hold so much hatred towards Holland? 22) When Renton describes first love as more bitter than sweet and sour, who overhears him? 23) What item did Renton, Eureka, and the kids discover on Earth? 24) Who was the first person to make Eureka ever smiled and laugh? Why? 25) What do the Vodarac people refer to the Nirvash as? 26) How many children do Renton and Eureka have, in any case? 27) Who deactivated the barrier around the Great Wall so that Renton and Eureka could enter through it? 28) Who is unable to tell the difference between directions? 29) How many times have Renton and Eureka fought against Anemone? 30) What is the Gekkostate's goal? 31) What was the first gift Renton gave to Eureka as a couple? 32) How old was Holland when he first met Diane? 33) In episode 48, Anemone states that she would like to buy a what so she can practice smiling. 34) How many years did Dewey spend in prison? 35) Which of the three kids does Renton seem to be the closest with? 36) In addition to being an LFO pilot, what other occupation does Matthieu have? 37) Nirvash told Renton and Eureka to show the humans the way of living together with the Scub Coral by having what? 38) Who is the oldest member of the Gekkostate? 39) What is the name of the place where Anemone spent her time as an experiment subject? 40) What is the name of the place Eureka spent her time in the aftermath of her discovery? 41) What were Renton and Eureka's jersey numbers when they played soccer? 42) How were Adroc's two assistants in the discovery and construction of the Nirvash? 43) In the Scub Coral incident, Eureka describes herself as a what? 44) How many LFOs did Charles and Ray possess? 45) In the film, how old were Renton and Eureka when they first met? 46) Who was the first Gekkostate member to get married? 47) How many times has Renton said "I love you" to Eureka? And Eureka to Renton? 48) How many ref boards have been created for Nirvash, and who was the creator? 49) How many generations in the Thurston family become heroes in E7 and AO? 50) Who develops the theory on the Limit of Questions?
Why would Renton take on the parental responsibilities of the kids, when he was just a kid himself and they (or at least the eldest) did not like him and didn't acknowledge him as part of their "family" with Eureka. Despite her own young age, Eureka became the adoptive mother to them to repent her sins for killing their families, and truly does love them as if they were her biological children. However, they disliked Renton for interfering in their relationship with Eureka, and he tried to earn their respect by acting like an older brother to them. Eventually, Maeter and Linck came to like and accept Renton as a male role model, but Maurice still rejected him. Despite this, Renton took on the responsibilities of caring for the children with Eureka after the two became a couple, and he reveals that he did so not because of Eureka but because he really does love the children and thinks of them as his kids.
By the end of E7, after all the kids fully accept him as their father, he makes it official by adopting them and marries Eureka shortly after his 16th birthday. Through the adoption, the kids become the older siblings of their "parents'" biological children. One wonders why a teenage boy would take a serious step in a relationship by becoming a surrogate father to small children who are old enough to be his younger siblings.
By his early 20s, Renton had a wife and five children. Been together with Eureka and caring for the kids since age 14, marrying Eureka and adopting the kids at age 16, and having Ao and Amber with Eureka a few years later. Despite how young they started their family and the hardships they endured, Renton and Eureka insist in AO that they don't regret anything.
BONES never specifically said how old Eureka is, even though she appears as a young teenage girl in E7. Some on the Gekko guessed that she was between 14 and 16 because of her looks and height compared to Renton, who was 14 at the time. However, she was found when Renton was very small (probably as a baby or toddler) and her appearance remained the same for more than 10 years until she met Renton. After the Scub Coral incident in the second season, she appeared younger, but that could be due to her developing emotions. In AO, she had noticeably aged in the years after marrying Renton and giving birth to Ao and Amber. The most common theory is that humanoid coralians don't age until they find their lifetime partner/soulmate. This could explain why Eureka never aged from the time she was found until she met Renton and declared him as her partner, and fell in love with him. In the novels, Eureka was said to be 120-something and she remained looking like a teenage girl the whole time. In the movie, she is the same age as Renton
Does BONES ever give any explaination for making the movie a bizzaro-world mess? Was it ideas that they didnt use in the show? Theres a LOT of recycled footage but also a lot of re-used imagry just redrawn with new characters and context, ex: the scene with Norb & Sakuya in the show and with Holland and Talho in the movie. Between that and the blatent referances to the original series it gives off a feeling that it was done on purpose with a hidden meaning...
Any explanations for the R to E ring in amber, and the footprints in amber as well?
Why kill off Amber? Why make trapar lethal to hybrids? Why force Ao to be separated from his family? And why make Renton and Eureka fight the Scub Coral and go against everything they worked for to achieve?
In my mind, I have developed a complete alternate storline of AO. Ao goes by his true name "Ao Thurston" and lives in Bellforest with his parents (Renton and Eureka) and siblings (Maurice, Maeter, Linck, and Amber (who is younger)) in the year 12021 (given that he's 13 and his parents are 31, they were 18 when he was born). The Scubs that left Earth in the last episode had developed a war with the Secrets, which are the alien lifeforms of the alternate world, and start returning to the E7 world to escape from them, which causes dire chaos. A new prophecy is discovered: it was well-known that Renton and Eureka were the ones meant to unite the scubs and humans, but not the ones to led the two as one through the future. That chosen one is their son, Ao, who is the first hybrid of the Scubs and humans. To achieve this, Ao must pilot the new est model of the original Nirvash and have the two races work together to stop the Secrets.
Fining out that the newfound military is benefiting the Secrets and allowing the chaos in order to destroy the Scubs and their human protectors, the Gekkostate reunites and joins forces with Generation Bleu to stop them. Ao falls in love with Fleur and develops a rivalry with Naru (Holland and Talho's daughter). Being a hybrid, Ao is ostracized along with his entire family by many people, and Naru is among those who despise him. A humanoid Secret named Truth sets out to kill Ao and joins forces with Naru to destroy the scubs and the human followers. Ao and Amber are able to live in the E7 unaffected by trapar, but when the levels are abnormally high, they are put at risk of dying. In the final battle, Ao risks his life to stop Truth and turns into stone due his Quartz Gun making the trapar rise higher than normal, and dies but is revived when the Scub Coral performs a one-time miracle.
- Ao lives with his family in the E7 world and becomes the pilot of the Nirvash Neo.
- The first arrival of a Scub triggered the first appearance of a Secret ten years prior and it was stopped by Renton and Eureka in the Nirvash Neo
- Ao's hair remains brown.
- Amber is alive and well, and is 7-year-old. She looks like Eureka but had Renton's eyes.
- Naru is Holland and Talho's daughter, and while she retains her looks, her outfit is different (the brown one-piece dress in the original character booklet).
- The exaggerated theory that trapar is lethal to hyrbids is left out, but abnormal levels are deadly.
- Dominic and Anemone are married and have a girl named Lily, who is the same Amber.
- The new military is headed by Dewey's secret, illegitimate son, Stephen.
- Truth is a humanoid Secret from the alternate world the Scubs initially tried to settle on after the end of E7.
- Naru is one of many people who ostracize Ao and his family for being different (Renton and Eureka's human-Coralian union and their two children being hyrbids). Under Truth's influence, she seeks out to kill him in order to return things on the planet they were before the scubs took over.
- The Gekkostate and Generation Bleu join forces to stop the Secrets.
- The scubs that left the planet in "wish Upon A Star" start returning due to the Secrets chasing after them.
- Ao is revealed to be the prophesied one to led the Scubs and humans into the future, and be their protector, due to being the firstborn hybrid.
- Truth sets to kill Ao because he sees Ao as a threat to his abilities and quest to take control of the original Nirvash.
- The military's stragedy of destroying the Scubs is using the Paradox Myth, which is collecting numerous Quartz from the Scubs, planting them into the Secrets, giving them the power to erase the existence of anything they destroy. However, it is also the method in which the most Quartz is planted into Truth, and if he dies, the existence of everything related to the Scub Coral will disappear.
- Ao kills Truth with the Quartz Gun before realizing about the Paradox Myth.
- Ao uses the original Nirvash to open a pillar of light, travels back in time to his final battle against Truth, removes the Paradox Myth from inside him, and kills him with an ultimate Seven Swell.
- Ao turns to stone and dies after using the Quartz Gun to release the ultimate Seven Swell and defeat Truth, triggering abnormal trapar levels. However, the Scub Coral performs a miracle by reviving him.
- According to the prophecy, Ao must board the new model of the original Nirvash after the Command Cluster returns, and use the Quartz Gun to activate a new and more powerful Seven Swell that will destroy the Secrets and restore the planet.
- Ao falls in love with Fleur, who feels the same way.
Its common knowledge that Renton fell for Eureka at first sight because of her beauty but in logic sense it was infatuation (expected from a naïve 14-year-old boy) and his feelings for eventually turned into real love as he learned more about her hardships. However, what is it about Renton that made him so different than Adroc and Holland that Eureka fell in love with him? All three men risked their lives to protect her, but she barely knew renton while she had known Adroc and Holland for many years. Why would a Coralian girl pick a naïve but good-hearted teenage boy over a kind but paternal-figure hero and a hot-tempered but determined former unit soldier?
Right at the beginning of the episode (after the title sequence) there's some fairly staccato sounding background music that reminds me of the original E7 first opening (Days). I was wondering if anyone knew if it was just some incidental music or another arrangement of Days that is available on one of the OSTs or something.
It can also be heard in the last minute and a half of the previous episode (21: World to World).
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